Is getting EOTN necessary for newbie? - Guild Wars Forums

tieve · Oct 04, 2011, 02:19 AM // 02:19

I'm going to start playing this game in a few days hopefully, but I have read a lot of hype about the Hall of Monuments, which requires the EoTN expansion. While I'm probably going to end up playing GW2 in the future, I'm just wondering if it's really necessary that I start playing GW1 with an unlocked Hall of Monuments, or can that wait until further down the road?
I do still want to enjoy the original game for what it is, so I was thinking of just not buying that expansion until I got to a later point in the storyline, but if my achievements and stuff won't register until I unlock the HoM, then I guess I will get it, but I'd rather save the money.

Sorry if this is worded awkwardly, but I hope I got my question across

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 04, 2011, 02:25 AM // 02:25

The HoM is just a trophy cabinet. Going there doesn't actually get you anything. The stuff you put into it comes from doing the actual content (i.e, campaigns). So to answer your question, if you don't want to pay for EotN atm, you don't have to.

tieve · Oct 04, 2011, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Great! Thanks a lot for the quick reply on this thread and my other one

Rhershy8 · Oct 04, 2011, 03:08 AM // 03:08

The HoM does however unlock weapons and other things for gw2. I am not absolutely sure if these unlocks give gw2 an actual advantage but I would guess they would not. They would probly just be cool looking vanity skins with the same stats as any other max weapon.

Also, EoTN offers pve skills, many of which are overpowered and make the game very easy. However, any campaign is still very much beatable in Normal mode and Hard mode without pve skills. If you prefer to challenge urself, then don't get EoTN/pve skills. It comes down to personal preference.

Good luck and welcome to the GW community!

trickfred · Oct 04, 2011, 03:23 AM // 03:23

If you hold off on getting EotN, any titles you earn beforehand can still be added to the HoM later, as long as you don't delete the characters before registering the titles. Elite armor sets can be added later, as long as you have all 4 non-helmet pieces (and again, don't delete the armor or the character until they're added). Some things, like for example, the statue in the HoM for finishing the Fissure of Woe, would have to be done (or re-done) after acquiring EotN.

If you want to see the HoM rewards for GW2, have a gander here: http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/

Vanway · Oct 04, 2011, 07:28 AM // 07:28

If you want to play any SC roles, which you probably will after a few weeks, EoTN is a must, plus the heroes make it all even easier

Iuris · Oct 04, 2011, 08:59 AM // 08:59

As several people already pointed out, you can achieve everything without EotN, and later buy EotN. However, to count, you will EVENTUALLY HAVE to get EotN, as the Hall of Monuments will only register your achievements once you display them in it.

Stephanie Goldenbow · Oct 04, 2011, 09:52 AM // 09:52

I wouldn't buy EotN for the HoM, but the skills, the ability to level up more quickly and the heroes all make it worthwhile to own (especially if you don't own Nightfall which also provides heros). Every character I have started in the last few years moves to the EotN as soon as they are level 10.

LanaDarkess · Oct 04, 2011, 01:15 PM // 13:15

I bought EotN before realising that there was an advantage to GW2 if I added titles etc. I mainly like it for the lore continuation and the new elite armor.

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Oct 04, 2011, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Play the core game for a while and see how you like it, I would definitely recommend buying EoTN at some point though, it's a lot of fun.

Quaker · Oct 04, 2011, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by tieve

While I'm probably going to end up playing GW2 in the future, I'm just wondering if it's really necessary that I start playing GW1 with an unlocked Hall of Monuments, or can that wait until further down the road?

Basically, you don't 'need' the HoM. As Marty says, it's just a trophy cabinet. As I often point out, it just gets you a few weapon/armor skins and mini-pet(s) which will be common as dirt and quickly surpassed by the desire for actual GW2 versions.

Gill Halendt · Oct 04, 2011, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by trickfred

Some things, like for example, the statue in the HoM for finishing the Fissure of Woe, would have to be done (or re-done) after acquiring EotN.

Nope.

They had to be done after the launch of the expansion and the introduction of HoM. It doesn't matter if your account currently has access to it or not.

Rhododendron · Oct 04, 2011, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

The HoM is just a trophy cabinet. Going there doesn't actually get you anything.

The Hall of Monuments gets you armor, weapons pets and titles in Guild Wars 2.
http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=m...AAAoik5BAAAAAA

Kendil · Oct 04, 2011, 07:16 PM // 19:16

As they've said, you don't have to have eotn at the start to get the items etc for hom, you just need eotn in order to put them in the hom (aka register them for gw2), which you can do at any point.

However, eotn is good for other reasons: It provides with alot of high level content, and story. Maybe most important in the hero era of gw1 is that eotn gives you access to what is it... 10 heroes? Including Livia and Xandra which are staple heroes in many team setups.

Dar Drakor · Oct 04, 2011, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by Stephanie Goldenbow

I wouldn't buy EotN for the HoM, but the skills, the ability to level up more quickly and the heroes all make it worthwhile to own (especially if you don't own Nightfall which also provides heros). Every character I have started in the last few years moves to the EotN as soon as they are level 10.

Exactly. And you can find a cheap KEY/copy of EOTN for cheap. You can buy it from one of the many resellers on Amazon for about $13 (that's with shipping). No real reason not to get it unless $13-14 is an issue. For all the "you can make it through GW without the EOTN skills and heroes" sure, but there are better things to challenge yourself with then something that you can get for cheap.

Quaker · Oct 05, 2011, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by Rhododendron

The Hall of Monuments gets you armor, weapons pets and titles in Guild Wars 2.

It's still a little unclear as to exactly what these items are - for example are they just skins, or starter level items, etc. I'm pretty sure that the armor is just an available skin that you'd still have to purchase and mod.
One thing we do know is that they won't give you any real advantage in play, so as I said, people will very quickly want to be getting fancy new GW2 versions rather than the common HoM ones. Consider how many people in GW1 go around wielding /bonus weapons.
I am curious about the spider pet - not that I want one - but is it an actual pet that levels up and will there be other (meaner) spiders available. (I'll have to look into it to find out)

Oct 04, 2011, 02:19 AM // 02:19	#1
tieve Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2011	Is getting EOTN necessary for newbie? I'm going to start playing this game in a few days hopefully, but I have read a lot of hype about the Hall of Monuments, which requires the EoTN expansion. While I'm probably going to end up playing GW2 in the future, I'm just wondering if it's really necessary that I start playing GW1 with an unlocked Hall of Monuments, or can that wait until further down the road? I do still want to enjoy the original game for what it is, so I was thinking of just not buying that expansion until I got to a later point in the storyline, but if my achievements and stuff won't register until I unlock the HoM, then I guess I will get it, but I'd rather save the money. Sorry if this is worded awkwardly, but I hope I got my question across

Oct 04, 2011, 02:25 AM // 02:25	#2
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	The HoM is just a trophy cabinet. Going there doesn't actually get you anything. The stuff you put into it comes from doing the actual content (i.e, campaigns). So to answer your question, if you don't want to pay for EotN atm, you don't have to. __________________

Oct 04, 2011, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#3
tieve Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2011	Great! Thanks a lot for the quick reply on this thread and my other one

Oct 04, 2011, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#4
Rhershy8 Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Guild: The Kurzick [MoB] Profession: R/	The HoM does however unlock weapons and other things for gw2. I am not absolutely sure if these unlocks give gw2 an actual advantage but I would guess they would not. They would probly just be cool looking vanity skins with the same stats as any other max weapon. Also, EoTN offers pve skills, many of which are overpowered and make the game very easy. However, any campaign is still very much beatable in Normal mode and Hard mode without pve skills. If you prefer to challenge urself, then don't get EoTN/pve skills. It comes down to personal preference. Good luck and welcome to the GW community!

Oct 04, 2011, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#5
trickfred Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canadia Guild: It's A Trick Get An [Axe]	If you hold off on getting EotN, any titles you earn beforehand can still be added to the HoM later, as long as you don't delete the characters before registering the titles. Elite armor sets can be added later, as long as you have all 4 non-helmet pieces (and again, don't delete the armor or the character until they're added). Some things, like for example, the statue in the HoM for finishing the Fissure of Woe, would have to be done (or re-done) after acquiring EotN. If you want to see the HoM rewards for GW2, have a gander here: http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/

Oct 04, 2011, 07:28 AM // 07:28	#6
Vanway Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2011 Profession: W/Mo	If you want to play any SC roles, which you probably will after a few weeks, EoTN is a must, plus the heroes make it all even easier

Oct 04, 2011, 08:59 AM // 08:59	#7
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	As several people already pointed out, you can achieve everything without EotN, and later buy EotN. However, to count, you will EVENTUALLY HAVE to get EotN, as the Hall of Monuments will only register your achievements once you display them in it.

Oct 04, 2011, 09:52 AM // 09:52	#8
Stephanie Goldenbow Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SC Guild: AKA-Azz Kicking Association Profession: R/	I wouldn't buy EotN for the HoM, but the skills, the ability to level up more quickly and the heroes all make it worthwhile to own (especially if you don't own Nightfall which also provides heros). Every character I have started in the last few years moves to the EotN as soon as they are level 10.

Oct 04, 2011, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#9
LanaDarkess Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Australia Profession: N/	I bought EotN before realising that there was an advantage to GW2 if I added titles etc. I mainly like it for the lore continuation and the new elite armor.

Oct 04, 2011, 02:02 PM // 14:02	#10
Da Rk Bl Ad E Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Belfast - Northern Ireland Profession: D/W	Play the core game for a while and see how you like it, I would definitely recommend buying EoTN at some point though, it's a lot of fun.

Oct 04, 2011, 07:16 PM // 19:16	#14
Kendil Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden	As they've said, you don't have to have eotn at the start to get the items etc for hom, you just need eotn in order to put them in the hom (aka register them for gw2), which you can do at any point. However, eotn is good for other reasons: It provides with alot of high level content, and story. Maybe most important in the hero era of gw1 is that eotn gives you access to what is it... 10 heroes? Including Livia and Xandra which are staple heroes in many team setups.